I thought I'd share a Jion Oyo on the pads, which also incorporates a take down which I recorded a couple of weeks ago
Good stuff. I especially like the front kick as a takedown. I am looking at that a lot as outer and inner leg reaping. I wonder how many moves were "standardized" into obscurity.
My analysis of this sequence, where the first Oizuki is delivered BEFORE the foot lands from the Maegeri leads me to consider that this is NOT a simple kick/punch. The two strikes that follow can be viewed as follow up strikes should the takedown fail, but the initial thrust is quite specific.
The example I recorded is from the inside of combative engagement, I will try and make time to record how the sequence applies to the outside of the combative engagement, and how that can stand alone as an application, or be applied as a fail safe to the clip above.
All the best
I love to see Bunkai on the pads! Nice drill that Mark.
Spaniard wrote:Good stuff. I especially like the front kick as a takedown. I am looking at that a lot as outer and inner leg reaping. I wonder how many moves were "standardized" into obscurity.
Mark B wrote:My analysis of this sequence, where the first Oizuki is delivered BEFORE the foot lands from the Maegeri leads me to consider that this is NOT a simple kick/punch.
I always think that the punch should start before the foot lands (or more accurately before the bodyweight settles) on any kick into any punch. The reason being that the “fall” forward should be utilised to add energy to the punch. In my traditional Wado training we were always taught this on basics such as Kette-Junzuki, Kette-Gyakuzuki, etc. It also aids the flow of techniques and avoids gaps in transitions. So I’d personally not read too much in to that and see it as a kick. Always good to explore alternatives though! :-)
My take on that sequence is shown in this video:
You could see it as being something other than a kick; but, for me, the “duck test” would have it as a kick i.e. "If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."
If we are taking it as sweep, I would suggest that the pad holders legs need to be the other way around (or you hop around the back and push and the alternate angle). On Osotogari / Byobudaoshi it’s most efficient to hook the lead leg as you push toward the back. Hooking the rear leg is frowned upon because you are attacking along the line of the feet, which is the line along which the enemy will be most stable. Basically, as the uke is standing, you’d be better pushing to the bottom right corner, as opposed to the top right corner. If you freeze frame the video at 48 seconds, you could hop with the left leg so the angle of drive is switched and the energy goes toward the bottom right (that is how a judo player may opt for Osotogari from this position) and not top right. You can also hop to get the enemy step and change his legs as shown here (which will allow you to throw at the same angle). Obviously we’d prefer to stay upright.
Simpler to hook the lead leg of course, and let’s not forget that if the strikes lad it can render the throw obsolete, or at the very least much easier to pull off :-)
Nice drill Mark. I do like the use of the “salutation”, the datum-setting hand on the first strike, the clearance for the second strike, and I’m a fan of the general idea of bunkai on the pads. The past masters could not do that because they didn’t have the impact equipment we have, but it really fills a gap and allows us to put impact into the drills.
Thanks for sharing!
All the best,
Thanks for your reply
The main element of the drill is obviously the two impacts and the clearance with Gedan Barai. I noticed Matts legs were, ideally speaking, the wrong way round, but I thought I'd share it anyway :-)
That said, when applying the drill without pads the Gedan Barai clear is more vigorous and it can serve to twist the opponent, which gets their weight and posture in a decent position for the takedown I demonstrated.
In reply to Eriks nice post I mentioned the inside, and outside, of the combative engagement. I use the 45° shift, and receive of the opponents limb to the outside in a very similar way to your clip. I also apply the kick as a........ kick ;-) , however, I apply the first "punch" after the kick to break posture, with Hikite, to attack the elbow joint, to draw the opponent down for the two punches that follow.
I must make time to record an example, and if I can find enough time I'll try and show my complete analysis of the first motion up to the 45° sequences , which considers various possibilities
Thanks for the additional info. Makes sense to me :-) Like it!
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