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tubbydrawers
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Removal of stances in your syllabus

Hi, With regards to your own syllabus, has anyone actually removed stances that you have deemed un worthy or not required in your karate. Or that they are unnecessary. So for example, in Shotokan if you were brought up performing all the stances then you decided to go independent, have you removed any stance. I know some have removed ippon, reduced the amount of Kata they teach, but I have never heard of anyone removing a certain stance because it didn't fit in with what they taught. Thanks.

Wastelander
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Well, I transitioned from one style to another, so this may not be exactly what you're looking for, but I no longer do kiba-dachi, at all. In the style I started my training in, kiba-dachi is VERY prevalent, being present in almost every kata, and even their version of Naihanchi/Tekki used a very wide/low kiba-dachi. I have a connective tissue disorder, and have had a bad knee, in particular, for a very long time, and that stance is just incredibly painful, not to mention just not being good basic joint alignment. When I switched to Shorin-Ryu, I found that they don't have kiba-dachi, at all. Even when I run through kata I originally learned in my first style, now, I replace all kiba-dachi with shiko-dachi, as it is healthier and less painful, not to mention more useful, to me.

Iain Abernethy
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Hi Craig,

tubbydrawers wrote:
I have never heard of anyone removing a certain stance because it didn't fit in with what they taught.

I have seen that. Once people are freed from the confines of style, they can swap one formal stance for another “variation” that achieves the same aims. The example I think I’ve seen most often is one Noah describes above.

Wastelander wrote:
Even when I run through kata I originally learned in my first style, now, I replace all kiba-dachi with shiko-dachi, as it is healthier and less painful, not to mention more useful, to me.

You need ways to shift weight in all the various directions, but there is room for manoeuvre in the example postures (i.e. stances) we choose to use for teaching purposes.

All the best,

Iain

Mikael Holstebro
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In our Sylabus we moved quite a few stances from being stances you are requiered to do - to stances you need to have a theoretical knowledge of.

That is only half a solution, because once you don't practice it why have it in the sylabus. And it becomes much harder to remeber the stances if they are just a theoretical concept.

Les Bubka
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Hi Craig,

Yes, I did, just like Noah I got rid of Kiba dachi. In our system we had both kiba and shiko, my knees feel really uncomfortable in kiba so it had to go. 

I changed most of position in my Taiso programme (for elderly) to avoid injuries and aggravating existing problems, most of the positions with turned in foot went through the window :) 

Best wishes 

Les