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Karate in action

My hat is off to this guy. He is clearly very well trained as he keeps his technique pretty well in tact despite the stress of an assault.

What lessons do we think we can learn from this fight?

For myself I see this as proof that we should not dismiss ring craft as being irrelevant to Self defence. Any assault that goes on for more than one or two blows is a fight and ring or not, skills and tactics learned from sparring can come into play if we are good enough to use them.

Michael Hough
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I think the biggest thing we can learn is that when you train for the ring, you"ll fight like you were in the ring. Which, in this case, turned out well.

But when the perp disengaged, why on earth did the guard not step back and draw his weapon? What if the bad guy had pulled one at that point?

I think the guard was looking for a fight, as he was lucky that the other guy was, too.

Zach Zinn
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I don't hear many (smart) people these days making unqualified dismissals of combat sports or ring sparring.

What I do hear smart  people saying is "you do what you train", and that training is environment specific - which in this case simply turns out to be true, and also in this case worked out in guards favor this time.

This looked like a consensual, uniterupted fight to me, I can't imagine anything BETTER than combat sports and one on one sparring for that.

wayne williams
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Looks like the guard was going for the points victory. I would suggest that his job would have been to restrain the guy after the initial assault. He seemed to land some nice shots with knees hands and elbows but didnt put the guy down. Why i ask? Would it be that he trained not to injure but to spar? Nice work but context all wrong for me.

Mark Laderwarg
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Looks like "acting" in action.

I ain't buying it.


michael rosenbaum
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Lessons learned?

 All fights don't go to the ground

One punch- one kill is not always true. Especially if your opponent is mad, trained, drugged, or just plain crazy.

Even trained fighters do get hit.

Even untrained fighters can be hard to put down.

Lethal force is not always the solution, even if it is the most effective.

Sometimes you don't have time to draw your firearm.

It's easier to coach from the sidelines than to apply said coaching during the fight (something I'm guilty of)

Distance and terrain influence the fight. For instance if one fighter is good at grappling, but has to fight a striker at middle to long range then the grappler will be at a disadvantage, unless they can close the range.

Over all my hat is off to the guy.

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All I see is that the Guard had either no power or never landed a shot that would have disable the agresser.  No grappling Skills so MMA or street fighting?  I didn't see it.  I may be wrong but I have seen many street fight videos a non of them look this clean.  They always look a lot more chaotic.  This fight looked more like a boxing match with a few kick thrown in.


Mark B
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Hi all,

A number of things instantly became apparent

1 The fight lasted much longer than was necessary, the guard had several opportunities to end the conflict sooner

2 The guard was working at a range that was comfortable for both individuals, maybe because thats the range he trains for, he possibly would have been better served stepping inside his opponents effective range to deliver his techniques, if you dont train the discomfort of close range, sometimes restricted striking, you probably won't employ that tactic in a live encounter

3 Although the knee strikes looked immpressive they were in fact having little effect, again the distance was a little long but more importantly to deliver low line techniques infight works more efficiently if the subject is held in place on the high line by locating arms/ shoulders, head etc

4 The other guy was employing the stereo type windmill punches, which is why I list the above, feints, footwork and guards are great in the right environment, for me however cover & crashing to gain the inside, control the head to deliver techniques with a higher percentage chance of being accurate, thus, hopefully shortening any conflict works best in this type of environment

5 If I find myself in a potentially violent situation which I can't avoid I dont want to fight, I want to win, the guards methods were a touch honourable and his opponent looked none the worse for wear, which would be a concern

All the best