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Jeb Chiles
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Preemptive stikes, attack disruption, trips and projections

Mostly from Kata with a few extra punches here and there.

Iain Abernethy
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Thanks for sharing Jeb! The pre-striking while walking, without the tell of breaking or readjusting stride (shown toward the start of the video), is something one of my teachers was big on, and the method has found its way into the practise of some police forces here in the UK. It has great utility when one is required to engage with an individual who is believed to be certain not to comply. From a civilian perspective it is less of an issue because we would generally not be closing distance with someone likely to be a threat. Law enforcement is very different of course and it’s interesting to see how pre-emption changes with context. Good for us instructors to practise and understand both contexts too.

As an aside, as well as practising isolated technique, I also like to include dialogue when working pre-emption on the bag … unless it’s one in a public place :-)

Thanks once again for sharing!

All the best,

Iain

PS Love the scoop kick into the Superman punch! I do a similar thing off a front kick when sparring, and I may have to give the alternate combo a try when the Christmas lull is over :-)

Jeb Chiles
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Iain Abernethy wrote:

Thanks for sharing Jeb! The pre-striking while walking, without the tell of breaking or readjusting stride (shown toward the start of the video), is something one of my teachers was big on, and the method has found its way into the practise of some police forces here in the UK. It has great utility when one is required to engage with an individual who is believed to be certain not to comply. From a civilian perspective it is less of an issue because we would generally not be closing distance with someone likely to be a threat. Law enforcement is very different of course and it’s interesting to see how pre-emption changes with context. Good for us instructors to practise and understand both contexts too.

As an aside, as well as practising isolated technique, I also like to include dialogue when working pre-emption on the bag … unless it’s one in a public place :-)

 Thank you for watching it! Would the walking in Wankan be  considered walking calmly toward danger then evade and counter?

All of my instructors and most of my adult students are military and law enforcement so I practice a wide variety of preemptive strikes.

I have had instructors make me do verbal commands, setting boundaries, conflict resolution etc.. definitely the most uncomfortable training i've done! just hit me, choke me or stab me instead please! but it is valuable training!

Iain Abernethy wrote:

PS Love the scoop kick into the Superman punch! I do a similar thing off a front kick when sparring, and I may have to give the alternate combo a try when the Christmas lull is over :-)

I've seen you do it or something close to it on a pad drill I'm pretty sure! Its a great combo for side to side movement which Kata seems to favor a bit! I can't wait till everyone gets back to training and sparring as well! (its been hours!!!!) thank you!

all the best

jeb

Iain Abernethy
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Hi Jeb,

Jeb Chiles wrote:
Thank you for watching it! Would the walking in Wankan be considered walking calmly toward danger then evade and counter?

Personally, I see that as a drive to unbalance as the leg is placed behind the enemy’s leg to stop them regaining balance: https://youtu.be/MbobMew3hLw

I have seen it also used as a cover and crash to escape a crowd, and that idea seems solid to me too.

Jeb Chiles wrote:
All of my instructors and most of my adult students are military and law enforcement so I practice a wide variety of preemptive strikes.

Makes sense. Context is always king.

Jeb Chiles wrote:
I've seen you do it or something close to it on a pad drill I'm pretty sure!

Yep! We do it quite a bit off a front kick / groin kick … like we do here: https://youtu.be/X1T1yRbfoFU

The scooping kick is also a kick I like and use a lot, but I love the way you put them together … it will be getting used :-)

Thanks once again for sharing!

All the best,

Iain