Forms of hikite

Its been a while since I've seen either of these kata, but I use hikite to off balance the opponent by grabbing in some kind. Hikite is more of a principle in general and each move may have variations on it. Think for example Heian Nidan opening three moves - It shows you three ways of using hikite whilst attacking with the other hand.

I am not sure what exact movement you are talking about, is it more of here 0.21 on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TUvm7wjHQA&feature=related  ?

If so it could be a form of stripping a grab/attempted grab whilst striking with the other hand  or breaking from a wrist grab and pulling the attacker forward for the uppercut strike. 

It's not really a hikite fella...more like a wrist grab and lock. 

If you can slow this clip down you might get a few ideas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmExIWEglSo hint about the 0.40 seconds mark. Gets back to Ian's principle of dealing with the arms to get to the head. In this case grabbing it for a take down

Thanks Jock and Leigh,

I am at work now, but will have a look when I get home. I like the idea of this as a possible wrist locking technique, something I was thinking about myself.

Thanks again,

Stu.

Yes agree it's more of a wrist grab/lock or trap down (shuto is trap up) against your body IMO. Still 'Hikite' in principle mind (Pulling/Grabbing Hand).

I sometimes use a soete as an initial parry, followed by a strike. That is in my opinion a variation on the original hikite principle of pulling/grabbing/controlling. The biggest difference in this application is the direction you guide the opponents hand to.

A short example: a migi-choku-tsuki (rh) comes somewhere slightly under the chudan 'point'. I use my hidari-soete (lh) to parry it towards my migi-hikite position, followed by a migi-gedanbarai/gedan-kote-uchi. But by that time I have hidari-hikite, ready to deliver a hidari-zuki of some kind (shotei, kensei, nukite, etc.).

I'm not familiar with the kata mentioned. But after seeing video's, I can imagine applying something like I mentioned above.

Dear Stu,

you mean the first movement in sepai? Jock presented a nice application. Here is another one by Taira:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhGDa9OV8yU&feature=related

Since it is the first movement (after yoi) in the kata, it should not be interpreted as higite but as a defense, I suggest.. The other arm could either hit with nukite or lock or throw. Jock´s example is from the outside but you can imagine doing it from the inside. But first defense, then grab, then lock and throw (one movement, different phases).

In sepai one orthodox interpretation is similar. After having been grabbed at the wrist (with one or two hands) you free yourself  by going towards the opponent and work with your elbow. Goju ryu and shito ryu offer variants, and the application is accordingly a bit different. Then you hit down his arms (teisho-otoshi?), eventually grab and simultaneously hit uraken to the face (make the way free for the counter-attack and"bind" the arm that it cannot block anymore).

higite in general reminds you that not only one arm works and the other sleeps. It is no matter of debate that in application higite should usually not be at the hip since you would be open for the next attack.

Perhaps higite comes from weapon fighting. If both hands grab a sword or a bo, both arms have to work simultaneously for obvious reasons and this increases energy!

Best,

Harold

Thank you Harold.

Regards,

Stu.